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Kato VBA#4
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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2007, 05:03:12 pm »

Quote from: "Stryker"
Will installing ModMan6 overwrite ModMan 5? Will Modman 6 recognise mods made with Modman 5?

The Modman 6 instructions clearly say "Uninstall Modman 5 before installing Modman 6".

Modman 6 will recognize all previous Modman and Loman mods - you just need to copy them into the new Modman 6 folder so it can see them.

Please read the Modman FAQ for more details:
http://www.checksix-forums.com/showthread.php?t=131754

and description of changes here:
http://www.checksix-forums.com/showthread.php?t=131750

Thanks
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RED10|Ells
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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2007, 09:51:35 am »

Hey Kato,
Here is the link to our latest mod:
http://www.virtualsnowbirds.com/downloa ... d-v2.6.zip

We've used the standard MIG-29a model, I'm not sure if the A and C frames use the same model in Lomac? does this cause an issue?
If you need to switch it to the C block, let me know and I'll get the guys training on that rather than the A.

We will be doing a joint display with the VSB's so you will need both models and skins for the Hawk (Mig-29) and Tutor (A-10).
The Hawk will be flown on the first day and the Tutor on the next day (not flying together on the same day).

Let me know if you need anything else guys.
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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2007, 12:06:50 pm »

Hi Ells,

this sounds really promising, however let me clarify something.  :mrgreen:

We, the community, decided to go towards a unique Mod for VFAT (only textures variation) this decision took in account the fact that it should be easier for the "sepctators" and for the pilots, hence for each team to handle one mod.
The straming issue, which is the most important event this year also need a "stable" unique mod.

So in your case your flying the A-10, the Mig29, the Mig29c, the mig29g and the SU33!!!  :D It is a lot to handle and difficult to manage, all the more so as we don't know the exact number of your pilot and VSB pilots. The main problem I see, is that there is a lot of eastern europe teams are using the native Mig29, so it is a bit "unfair".

For the Tutor, it should possible to "merge" it with the L39 BJT as soon as you provide the 3dsmax file.

Don't misunderstand my views, I am not native english speaking, I am just starting a discussion, not putting bad remarks, just pointing at the possible problems.  :P  The VFAT community should give its point of view on this hot subject.

Cheers,
Erwan "Airone"
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RED10|Ells
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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2007, 02:19:23 pm »

Hey Airone,

So are you saying that we can't fly with our own models, I.e. the Hawk and the Tutor?
And that we can only fly a stock Lomac model with a different skin?

Sorry for any confusion and just to clarify what I meant:
We are only flying the Hawk (Mig-29a) and the Tutor (A-10) - some VSB pilots and some VRA pilots will make up the team - 6 planes in total.

The only models needed for the 'grand mod' are the Hawk on the Mig-29a and the Tutor on the A-10.
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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2007, 04:15:50 pm »

[quote:064a3]So are you saying that we can't fly with our own models, I.e. the Hawk and the Tutor?
And that we can only fly a stock Lomac model with a different skin?[/quote]

Not at all!  :D We are on our way to find affordable solutions.

My analysis were based on your mod, allright, now I have a clearer picture of the situation. The fact is, we will do as far as possible a unique mod.
So your Tutor will have to be merge (source file) with the L39, so we can export a UNIQUE a-10.lom with both the two airplane, which is achevied thanks to Kato "magic" method. That is "solved".

For the Hawk it's tricky, since your file will replace native Mig29a, so the other pilots, when choosing the mig29a will have the Hawk and not their mig29a... So in this case I don't know how to proceed since we would have needed the source file (3dsmax) of a mig29a, but that won't be possible...Waiting for Kato, he has a strong experience in Lockon.

That was my question  :lol:
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RED10|Ells
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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2007, 05:12:10 pm »

Ah ok, I understand now.
Thanks for your comments and we await info from Kato.
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MAD MAX
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« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2007, 06:51:19 pm »

Hello all!
Glad to see you on this website! =)

So...we have new textures for MiG-29. You can download it gere: http://http://www.ukrfalcons.com/plugins/p13_download_manager/getfile.php?categoryid=14&p13_sectionid=3&p13_fileid=47&p13_versionid=47

And our group have solo on Su-27, but not me. Name of pilot - Taker! And texture you can also download: http://http://www.ukrfalcons.com/plugins/p13_download_manager/getfile.php?categoryid=14&p13_sectionid=4&p13_fileid=40&p13_versionid=40

Sorry for long links...=)
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« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2007, 08:30:09 pm »

Hi Mad Max!

Nice to see you here!


@Airone: We can take the VTB of the list for the modification as they won't be able to take part this time.
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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2007, 08:59:08 pm »

Quote from: "JaBoG32_Laud"
@Airone: We can take the VTB of the list for the modification as they won't be able to take part this time.

@Laud, Just to make sure we're on the same page here...  ;) Our model [u:a6689]likely[/u:a6689] will not be done in time, although we are still planning to fly at least two of three days with our ED (default) model during VFAT07.
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« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2007, 09:59:25 pm »

Damn... my mistake... I meant the Virtual Snowbirds...

Big sorry!
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Kato VBA#4
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« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2007, 04:12:54 am »

Sorry I didn't get to this thread in the last couple days.

Ells - Like you said, I'll have to restrict you to to one MiG model rather than the MiG-29A, C and G. There are actually only two flyable MiG models by default as far as I can tell, and one AI MiG-29, but I haven't looked into that in detail yet. Does anyone know model the other MiG using teams fly? If Reaper and the Swifts use the A model, then I'll put the VRA on the C model. If there is no preference, we can keep the VRA on the A model. To be clear, you will be able to fly the Hawk, Ells!

VSB have told me that they won't be flying too. Shame since I got the Tutor working with the L39 already - lol.

Mad Max - I can't read Russian, so I can't find where to click to download the file from either of the pages you linked  :(  Could you post a direct link please?

I have a feeling we may well see the VTB F-16 in the mega-mod  ;)
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MAD MAX
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« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2007, 10:08:21 am »

Quote from: "Kato VBA#4"
Mad Max - I can't read Russian, so I can't find where to click to download the file from either of the pages you linked  :(  Could you post a direct link please?

 :)  Push on my link! And download begin! I post two direct link!

http://http://www.ukrfalcons.com/plugins/p13_download_manager/getfile.php?categoryid=14&p13_sectionid=3&p13_fileid=47&p13_versionid=47

http://http://www.ukrfalcons.com/plugins/p13_download_manager/getfile.php?categoryid=14&p13_sectionid=4&p13_fileid=40&p13_versionid=40

Swifts and our group (Ukraine Falcons) use MiG-29S!


And i have one question! Can i use my mission with my points on VFAT? Or mission will be one for all?
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« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2007, 10:16:17 am »

Well, the first post is updated with likely slots for every planes.

It is pity we've "lost" the White Ravens and the Virtual Snowbirds in one day, especially as Kato said that we were able to handle the tutor and L39. hopefully, there will be Fraser solos and some of the VSB flying the Hawk  :lol:

So If am I summarising well (except for the mig29 where things are not fully clear for me):

L39 is the "only" plane using the A-10
The Hawk will replace one Mig29
And the others Mig29 pilots will fly the same one.

As far as I know that is the info we have on MEinit.xml for Mig29:
Name            Shape    (WorldId)
Mig-29S        Mig-29C     50               Flyable
Mig29-A        Mig-29       2                Flyable
Mig-29A        Mig-29G     49              Flyable

and one AI Mig29K

@MAD MAX: check your email, the one you gave in the registration forum is not working. And the same as Kato said, we are not able to understand Cyrillic, so we don't know how to register on your forum to go to the download link. Could you put it on the ftp ?

@Laud: I was SURE the VTB will rock with us! :D
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MAD MAX
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« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2007, 10:33:39 am »

I'am sorry, but you have a little mistake! =)
Must be:
Quote from: "Airone"

Mig-29S: [color=#00BF00:d240e]Virtual Swifts[/color:d240e], [color=#00BF00:d240e]Virtual Ukranians falcons[/color:d240e][color=#0000FF:d240e],[/color:d240e][color=#00BF00:d240e]59th_reaper[/color:d240e], [color=#00BF00:d240e]APA Squadron[/color:d240e],[color=#00BF00:d240e]Dutch solo[/color:d240e],
Su-27:    [color=#00BF00:d240e]White Ravens[/color:d240e], [color=#00BF00:d240e]PSV[/color:d240e],[color=#00BF00:d240e] Virtual Swift[/color:d240e], [color=#00BF00:d240e]Dutch solos,[/color:d240e] [color=#0000FF:d240e]Taker(831th GvIAP of Mirgorod)[/color:d240e], [color=#00BF00:d240e]Virtual Russian Knights[/color:d240e] [color=#FF0000:d240e]but with SU30[/color:d240e]



Please update your first post!
And i forgot!! Sorry guys, if you want download you must register...my forum in russia. So today i put my texures on your FTP.
Sorry!
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RED10|Ells
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« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2007, 03:02:07 pm »

No probs Kato, I've asked RotorBlade to upload the Hawk Max model to the FTP site (second details Airone sent).

If you let me know which Mig-29 model you put it on, I'll ask our guys to train on that.

It looks like RB put the Hawk on the C and G models in the mod.
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